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Re: Project Raiwat
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:18 am
by Armored Entity
If that's your idea for Human Leo, it isn't good. It doesn't look like what Leo would be like to me, and it looks more like a floating witch doctor mask with arms and a tail.
Re: Project Raiwat
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:19 am
by [][][][]
Not to mention that there's no way there could be energy connectors.
And that the cockpit... it's not supposed to be that way. We're looking at it top-down, mind you.
Just my two cents.
Re: Project Raiwat
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:19 am
by XGluon
...Yeah...I'd say that in my opinion, H-Leo should be a heavily armed ship of some sort. Vaguely like AlexMdle's Hermit. But that's just my opinion here.
(It's basically the only thing that pops into my mind when I think of "H-Leo".)
...By the way, I was wondering if I could work on R-Gemini. I've done a pretty thourough analysis of H-Gemini, and here's what I came up with:
*We already know that the R-Gemini cannot attack two ships at once.
Thus, all of its attacks except for the "shared armaments"(that is, the weapons that both R-Virgo and R-Libra have) would be aimed at the player.
*H-Gemini Type-M "can degrade optical weapons with its electromagnetic shielding".
This means that R-Gemini primarily uses optical weapons(that is, no missiles or bombs).
*In addition, H-Gemini Type-M primarily uses bombs and missiles-which can pierce through a reflection shield(the missiles) or severely drain it(the bombs)
This might mean that R-Gemini uses its shield a lot.
*H-Gemini Type-B was designed based on offensive power and mobility.
This leads me to think that H-Gemini Type-B was made to act as the primary means of attack, while H-Gemini Type-M was meant to primarily serve as a diversion.
*Thus:
H-Gemini Type-M was meant to soak up the majority of R-Gemini's attacks as well as bring down its shield,
which would thus draw R-Gemini's attention away from H-Gemini Type-B, which in turn would dodge the rest of R-Gemini's attacks and attack it when its shield is down.
The fact that the two H-Gemini ships can combine would mean that the combination attack would be used to finish off R-Gemini when it is significanly weakened.
...So, what do you think?
Re: Project Raiwat
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:19 am
by Armored Entity
Here's mine for my contribution.
Apparently since H-Taurus was a large tank with superior firepower, and the only land-based Human ZODIAC, R-Taurus would probably be just about ineffective against a land vehicle and couldn't approach it very well.
My R-Taurus would sport two Radiant-Silvergun (or Alltynex ship-like) styled Energy blades as a means of attack that appear from the sides (not physically though). Apparently these blades would be powerful, but only at close range, which would be just about useless against a ground vehicle. Also R-Taurus would not use missiles or bombs because of that.This also would mean that R-Taurus would also be slower, making it easier to bring down with H-Taurus's anti-aircraft guns and main laser. R-Taurus would probably use a lot of homing lasers though, since those would make it better against air units, and it perhaps would not have that good of a shield both because of H-Taurus being better and all these attacks such as the blades means it has to divert more power to them.
So basically, H-Taurus had superior ground-based attacks, and enough anti-air turrets to bring down the air-superior R-Taurus before it could get close, as well as stronger armor than it.
Also for mine, I was thinking of the entrance to involve it using a number of escort fighters before the actual fight.
...So, what do you think?
Re: Project Raiwat
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:20 am
by Ex-Rumia
Just some Info XGluon shared with me... that surprised me.
XGluon wrote:
Well, I do have some info on the H-Virgo. In addition, I've re-translated the data I provided you earlier.
Here's the data on the "H-Zodiacs" that the game has:
Pisces. Tracks down escaping enemies by using radar, then uses the conventional "midair ambush from the sea of clouds" pattern of fighter aircraft.
The Type-A is a heavy artillery type, while the Type-P is present as a covering fire-type.
Virgo. An air fighter with high power and high mobility.
While it can only operate within the atmosphere, it has been equipped with a multitude of firearms, and is capable of balanced high speed combat.
Taurus. A base escort and fortress destruction ground weapon.
The tank's manuverability is very poor, but due to its rapid-fire cannon barrages as well as its primary weapon, a mobile Buster Cannon, approaching it is difficult.
Scorpio. A mobility-type space fighter that takes space combat into account.
Its distinctive stern houses a variety of weapons, lasers that are shot at a high speed, and is mounted with bombshell-type explosives.
Sagitarrius. The flagship of the Meteor Fleet which is equipped with a large amount of weaponry.
While it shows that it is outfitted with overwhelming firepower, it is just needed for moving the tomb.
As a transport-based aircraft, Gemini and Cancer have been mounted in it.
Gemini. A pair of aircraft with the design concept of a halberd and a shield.
The Type-M can degrade optical weapons with its electromagnetic shield,
and the Type-B offensive weapon has been designed in pursuit of power and mobility.
Cancer. Combat aircraft that specializes in navingating at speeds close to the speed of light.
Just seeing the barrages it issues from its small yet numerous gun batteries is enough to inspire fear.
In addition, here's something I learned about the ZODIACs from the second monologue between Stages 7 and 8: The Raiwat "sealed away" the full power of all the ZODIAC unit's weaponry(that is, they placed limiters on the ZODIACs' power) But before you fought R-Libra, it had the Raiwat remove the limiter that was placed on it. So, unlike the rest of the ZODIACs, R-Libra is fighting at its 100% full power. Which means that, theoratically, the rest of the ZODIACs may have had the ability to use R-Libra's "Apocalypse Buster"(the "Giga Flare" attack that wipes out both Kamui Unit 07 and Kamui Unit 08(the Kamui fighters you fight in the last stage)), but they couldn't because their power was not high enough to use it, and that the rest of the ZODIACs could have been as powerful as R-Libra if they were fighting at 100% full power.
As for your ideas, Very well, I'll leave it to you two.
Re: Project Raiwat
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:21 am
by Kamui OS
Interesting... So all of this came from the game?
Re: Project Raiwat
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:22 am
by Aeon
I'd have chosen human Libra, since it's my sign. But it's already taken, so nevermind. I wouldn't mind contributing to Libra, however. If you like.
Re: Project Raiwat
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:54 pm
by Ex-Rumia
I realize this is probably dead by now, since I hadn't really been checking up on people nor working on it myself...
But I wanted to know if anyone was interested in continuing/resuming the collab?
Re: Project Raiwat
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:53 pm
by XGluon
I think I should take over.
Being a hardcore Siter Skain fan, I think that I'm better suited to be the one managing this project.
And since Siter Skain has released the "Tale of ALLTYNEX" setting material collection book, and that I'm probabbly the only person on these forums who is good at translating Japanese, I should really post the info about the RefleX bosses (from the RefleX "mechanics" section) when I get it and translate it.
(I've already got-and translated- the info about Pisces(Type-E) and Virgo from a sample picture of one of the pages. There was info about Taurus there too, but I couldn't make out the words very well do to how long it is and the quality of the page. I'll post what I've got so far if anybody wants me to. Expect me to give out the rest of the info once I've obtained high-quality scans of the rest of the "mechanics" section's pages.)
Re: Project Raiwat
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:40 am
by Kamui OS
Excellent idea. The more accurate the info, the better.