Project Raiwat

[Xeilumardrox]

Since I'm deciding to make Raiwat Sagittarius have uberly uber defense and uberly uber amount of HP even in non-wing form, have the player not even be able to damage it at all at first, until the player gets into a sudden power mode thing (sorta like in what happened RefleX against Raiwat Virgo), damage it by about 5% of its HP, where it will go into Wing Form, and then make the player unable to damage it AGAIN. The fight will last on for a while. Then have a group of already-fought-by-player surviving human-types arrive, and swarm their strongest attack on Raiwat Sagittarius, dropping its HP down to about 20% HP, where Sagittarius will then use its strongest attack, and wipe out all the human-types in the area, lowering its own HP to about 2%, where the player and Sagittarius will fight until one of them wins.

[Ex-Rumia]

The Pisces Type R fight is going to be a bit of a time mess. Since I'm going to bring back Pisces Type-H. As far as the battle goes, it's just going to pester Type R until it's HP gets to 70%. Then it will try to dive just to get utterly destroyed by the winged form of Type R or if Type H is destroyed by the player... well you'll see. The player and Type R will battle until It's defeated.

[MintE]

Rumia the intro laser angle. Use for Pisces R-Type. Or are we not doing that?

[XGluon]

The human GEMINI weapons were made because the Raiwat version couldn't handle two enemies at once. According to info anyway, so making the Raiwat version split in two would kinda...yeah, you get the idea.

What I think so for from each Human Counter Weapon
Scorpio: Scorpio (Type Human) was mostly a Hit–and–Run fighter, Which means that Raiwat Scorpio was probably slow moving, or maybe it was slow to aim.

Taurus - Taurus (Type Human) was a massive tank. Sporting more Physical firepower (supposedly) Then any other Human Weapon. Raiwat Taurus might have had a shield system that made Energy weapons useless against it, or more armor then any of the other Raiwat Weapons.

Pisces: Pisces (Type Human) I have no idea how to categorize. They sent it into battle already damaged, so I have no clue how it would have functioned if it were repaired. But it seemed to use the area to it's advantage, that's all I can say.

Sagittarius: Sagittarius (Type Human) was the massive Lead ship in stage 3. It boasted incredible firepower and size, so Raiwat Sagittarius could have been just as large, or had weapons that could have taken down most things in one hit... or it could have just been Humanity showing off.

Cancer: Cancer (Type Human) was a multiform fighter, maybe it was made to mimic the Raiwat Transformation. Other then it having both solid and energy weapons, and the transformation from battleship to half-mech I have no idea how it was meant to counter Raiwat Cancer.

That's all I have for now.

[XGluon]

Rumia, I'll have you know that I can be of assistance. Not boss making(I'm still new at making bosses), but I will assist with boss ideas!

To help you with this, I shall provide you with some helpful info from RefleX's Sound Mode "data files":

Pieces: Utilizes the "surprise attack from the sea of clouds" strategy. And there are actually two "H-Pieces" ships: Type-A, a heavy weapons type, and Type-E, an escort ship. (You don't fight Type-A in RefleX because according to the game's manual, the "H-Ophiuchus"(the carrier battleship you see in Area 1) destroyed it using a "buster laser"(the huge laser beam that the "H-Sagitarrius" and the ZODIACs use)(and by the way, the enormous laser beam that "R-Libra" uses is called an "Apocalypse Buster")completely annhilated Type-A and destroyed half of Type-E's armor(explaining why it is already damaged).) So, I suggest that you make the Type-A.

Taurus: Is very difficult to approach due to its rotatable buster cannon and gun turrets. So the "R-Taurus" might not be very good at defending itself during close-range combat.

Cancer: Designed for sub-lightspeed navingation, and has many small but numerous gun batteries. So the "R-Cancer" might not be suited to facing intense barrages.



And Coreshooter, for the H-Aquarius, I suggest that you basically make it a submarine version of Cancer, as the H-Aquarius should most definitely be a water-based weapon.(So it needs to be fought on a watery background, and I suggest you give it a "submerging" ability similar to Firefox11's Aqua Lupus 2.0)
And I would suggest that its attacks should include deploying mines and shooting a missile barrage while it is submerged.
(If so, this would mean that the R-Aquarius would not be good at attacking targets that can attack while hidden.)

(Also, has anybody seen the ZODIAC design Zarro used in his "DOLL 2nd" try? That is WAY more accurate to the in-game design than Ebo's. No offense, Ebo.)

[Ex-Rumia]

Info provided by XGluon

Pisces. An aircraft that uses radar to track down escaping enemies, then eliminates them using the conventional "surprise attack from the sea of clouds" strategy.
The "Type-A" ship is designed for utilizing heavy weapons, while the "Type-E" is designed as an escort ship.

Taurus. A ground-based fortress destruction weapon that also doubles as a fort escort vehicle.
The tank has a low functional capacity, but it issues rapid-fire barrages from its rotatable buster cannon and gun turrets, making it difficult to approach.

Scorpio. A riot warship that takes the types of maneuvers used while fighting in space into account.
It is distinctive in that its stern houses a variety of firearms, high-output rapid-fire lasers, and is equipped with bombs and shotguns.

Sagitarrius. The enormous flagship of the Meteor Fleet, it is equipped with many gun batteries.
While it shows that it is outfitted with overwhelming firepower, it is only necessary for moving the orbital cemetery. As it is also an aircraft carrier, Gemini and Cancer have been installed inside it.

Gemini. A pair of aircraft that is based on the concept of a spear and a shield.
The "Type-M" ship has electromagnetic weapons that can degrade an optical shield,
while the "Type-B" ship has been designed based on offensive power and mobility.

Cancer. A combat aircraft specializing in sub-light speed navigation.
It issues several barrages from its small but numerous gun batteries that are sure to inspire fear in its enemies.

[Xeilumardrox]

So...
Litte things to be noted. Raiwat Libra may not be the strongest zodiac after all. It really hasn't displayed much feats that make it notably stronger than the other Raiwats. Sure, it's non-wing form is stronger than Raiwat Virgo's non-wing form, but in their wing form, they're about the same strong. As you can see, they both share the giant laser attack, the energy shield, and can both spam lasers, missiles and bullets like hell. If Libra was anymore difficult than Virgo in the game, it is because of how it used the missiles, bullets and lasers. It fires them in a certain way where it would be difficult to survive if you're going to get one-hit KO'ed by a bullet with the shield, since the shield cannot block missiles. Meanwhile, Libra was shown to need the help of a couple of drones it summons in order to do a full screen laser attack, and requires a charge time long enough for you to even destroy a couple of the drones. Virgo on the other hand had a full screen laser attack with the same charge as any of the giant lasers, only it fills the entire screen, along with Virgo flying out of the screen for a few seconds to completely fill the screen.

Sure, Libra had the Ultimate Flare attack that destroys almost everything and can only be blocked by a shield. But the moment Libra uses one flare, it requires a long recharge time before it can use it again. If it doesn't, it cripples itself badly, as shown in the game. Meanwhile, Virgo can use its own unique attack, the Gravity Bind a lot more often, which binds its opponent in front of it where it can fire a giant laser along with a HUGE barrage of homing lasers and bullets while the enemy is held in place, unable to avoid the attack. Of course, it can also be blocked by the shield (unless Virgo can actually release a couple of missiles within the barrage and only isn't used in the game because it would be unfair), but Virgo can repeatedly do this without crippling itself like an idiot that Libra was.

Also, from the information provided by XGluon, there is a possibility that Raiwat Sagittarius is the strongest Raiwat. Human-Type Ophiuchus, which was the carrier carrying the Phoenix fought H-Pisces Type-A, destroys Pisces Type-A with a giant laser attack that only H-Sagittarius and the Raiwats have. After the battle, it is obviously weakened, allowing it to get surprised nuked by Human-Type Virgo. In other words, H-Ophiuchus was basically a vastly weaker version of H-Sagittarius. They both carry ships (H-Ophuichus carries the Phoenix, which ironically contains the core of Raiwat Ophiuchus when it is made to go against it, while H-Sagittarius carries both Gemini AND Cancer), armed with a GIANT LASER cannon, and have weapons armed on it. Sagittarius is VASTLY larger than Ophiuchus and is described to have overwhelming firepower, being armed with hundreds of gun turrets, laser turrets, and dual-laser cannons and is only necessary to have in order to move the orbital cemetary. Ophiuchus and Sagittarius are the only human-types to have the giant laser cannon armed on them, meaning that Raiwat Ophiuchus (which is displayed to be able to take down all the Raiwats) and Raiwat Sagittarius may be the strongest of the Raiwats. H-Sagittarius was also mounted with Gemini and Cancer, along with being surround by several hundred battleships which make up the Meteor Fleet. It may mean that Raiwat Sagittarius leads the entire Raiwat fleet and is usually accompanied with Raiwat Gemini and Raiwat Cancer when they split. The player managed to survive going into the Meteor fleet because it is a small unnoticeable ship flying around the huge army, and is not being prioritized by the fleet. In the intro of RefleX, it actually described Sagittarius itself as the "Meteor Fleet" although this may be an indication of it leading the entire thing, it may be an indication that Raiwat Sagittarius took on the rest of the entire Meteor Fleet all by itself.There's a reason why Virgo, and Libra and probably the rest of the Raiwats were in absolute perfect condition and in non-wing form when you fought them. Even with those giant lasers and Libra's giant flare, it is impossible not to take at least the slightest bit of damage when there are hundreds of giant battleships approximately the same size as you all aiming lasers and missiles at you. The player survives because it wasn't the fleet's priority. The lasers used by the Raiwats may be huge, but the battleships are huge as well and spread out enough so that you can only take one or a few at a time even with a giant laser. As for Libra's giant flare attack, it first of all requires Libra to be in Wing Form to use. Second of all, it takes time to charge that attack. While it is charging, it will get bombarded by thousands of lasers and missiles, getting destroyed without even being able to use it. Even if it doesn't get destroyed, it will come out with HEAVY damage. But it is shown flying around in perfect condition in its non-wing form in the last stage. The ship that destroys Cancer after the player's fight with it may be Raiwat Cancer, not Virgo, seeing that Virgo seemingly entered the battle after you and H-Virgo attacks it. While you fought H-Cancer, when it turned into claw form, you can see that the ENTIRE METEOR FLEET was wiped out. A while after, you see that a Raiwat in perfect condition swooping in (probably Raiwat Cancer) and destroys H-Cancer with a giant laser. That time you fought H-Cancer in claw form was probably the time the rest of the 11 Raiwats sets off after Raiwat Sagittarius destroyed the Meteor Fleet. Of course, this could very well be another Raiwat, but seeing how H-Sagittarius was made to be UBERFIED to the max, it's probably Raiwat Sagittarius.
Raiwat-Ophiuchus was strong enough to wipe out all the zodiacs, but seeing how H-Sagittarius is basically a larger and way stronger version of H-Ophiuchus, Raiwat Sagittarius is probably stronger than even Raiwat Ophiuchus. So how did Raiwat-Ophiuchus manage to destroy Raiwat Sagittarius? Easy. Raiwat Sagittarius was immensely weakened after taking down the entire Meteor Fleet, so Raiwat Ophiuchus could destroy it.

This is just one of my ridiculous theories, and may not be true AT ALL, but yeah... This is what I came up with from a small bit of info. Meaning time to change the try story for Raiwat Sagittarius a bit.

[Ex-Rumia]

I screwed up the wings. But yeah, good so far?

[PureQuestion]

I screwed up the wings. But yeah, good so far?

Bottom legs look bad.

[Ex-Rumia]

Final winged version.